Police evidence reveals accused killer Max Sica crying during walk-through of Singh home following murder

ACCUSED killer Max Sica broke down and couldn't continue when police took him on a walk through of the Singh siblings's murder scene, a court has seen.

A Supreme Court in Brisbane had earlier seen taped video recording of an interview between lead investigating officer Joe Zitny and Sica at the Petrie police station, on April 22, 2003.

It then saw a video tape of Sica and police, led by Det Zitny, going through the Singh home on April 25, 2003.

The trial has heard Sica discovered the bodies of the Singh children in an ensuite spa bath at their Bridgemen Downs home, in north Brisbane, on April 22, 2003.

Police took him through the house on April 25, 2003, to tell them about his movements before locating the bodies.

Sica told police he could smell something like a barbecue or cooking brussel sprouts when he was in the house.

"It was like brussel sprouts, the smell of food you don't want to eat," he said.

Sica clearly gave details of what he had done in the lead up to finding the bodies but as the walk through continued in the upstairs area the jury saw Sica become more and more upset until a sobbing Sica couldn't continue.

Police ended the walk through and sent Sica home with his father.

Sica, 42, has pleaded not guilty to murdering Neelma Singh, 24, Kunal Singh, 18, and Sidhi Singh, 12, at Bridgeman Downs, on April 21, 2003.

Later, the court heard recording of Juvenile Aid officers talking with Sica's son Daniel Sica, then aged 11, who was with him when he went to the Singh home, on April 22, 2003.

The court has heard Sica sent Daniel, his daughter Britney and their cousin to the car before he went into the Singh home.

Daniel told the officers Sica had collected him and his sister and friend on Monday morning (April 21) after Sica had not been able to get them the previous day.

The court heard Daniel share details about the Monday they spent with Sica, including getting breakfast and videos, playing, and having dinner with Sica's girlfriend Nicole (Zwoerner).

Daniel said Sica told him Nicole was coming over and that he was now just friends with his old girlfriend Nim (Neelma Singh).

The next day Sica took Daniel, Britney and a friend to the Singh house to see if Neelma and Sidhi wanted to go to a movie with them.

Daniel told police that the relationship between Sica and Neelma was "pretty good" and they were friends.

He said Sica had told Neelma on Sunday that they might be going to the movies on the Tuesday.

When they couldn't raise anyone at the Singh house, Sica and Daniel went to the back of the house given, and tried the back door screen door.

Daniel said he had been able to see two cars in the garage and Neelma's dog Bujo was there.

He also looked in the kitchen window but couldn't see anyone.

Sica had given Daniel his keys and told him and the other children to go back to the car and sit in the car.

Daniel said he did think something was wrong because the Singhs weren't answering the phone or a knock at the door.

Sica then went into the house and Daniel and the two girls went back to the car on the street

Sica had come back crying with the dog, Bujo, and told Daniel to take the dog.

"When dad came back he was crying and his eyes were red. He was calling someone, I didn't know who. Four or five minutes after a police car drove up and dad was talking to them," Daniel Sica told police.

He said his dad had been in the house for about 10, 15 or 20 minutes before coming out.

Daniel said he and the girls waited about half an hour and their aunt came to get them.

The trial before Justice John Byrne continues.

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This walk through was done three days after Max Sica discovered the bodies of the Singh children.

Max Sica did not ask for a lawyer even at this stage.

After leaving the walk through with his father, he was taken to hospital for he was truly in a bad state.

Det. Zitny would have you believe that he faked his grief.

It was stated in court by Archana Singh (sister of the deceased) that on the Easter Sunday night she was having an internet conversation with her sister Neelma. At about 830pm Neelma told her sister (via chat) that there was someone at the door and she had to go answer. Neelma did not log back onto the internet after this incident. Till this very day, no one knows who was at the door that night at that time. I would think that if it was a family member or friend, they would have come forward and stated that they had seen the Singh children that night.

What if it was the killer/s at the door? Kunal Singh had to go out with his friends that night and his friends were suppose to sleep over. He rang his friends and told them that he was not feeling well and that his sister Neelma wanted a quiet night in, so he asked them not to go over.

This is a factor which has been playing on my mind. Maybe they were told not to let anyone come to the house by their killer/s. Kunal was suppose to go out and his friends sleep over, Max Sica was meant to go over and then Neelma told him that she was not feeling well and for him not to. Coincidence? maybe... but still makes one think.

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Sica blames God for three murders

Sica blames God for three murders

Christine Flatley

April 16, 2012 - 1:57PM

Accused murderer Max Sica told police that God was responsible for the deaths of three siblings found in a spa bath, a court has heard.

Sica, 42, is currently on trial in the Supreme Court in Brisbane for the murders of his ex-girlfriend Neelma Singh, 24, and her siblings Kunal, 18, and Sidhi, 12.

Their bodies were found in a spa at their Bridgeman Downs home in April 2003.

Mr Sica told police he found the trio when he went to the home on April 22.

The crown alleges he killed them, cleaned up after himself and then called in the deaths in an attempt to deflect the blame from himself.

Police did extensive recorded interviews with Sica, some of which were played to the jury today.

In one interview, lead investigating officer Joe Zitny asked Mr Sica who he thought was responsible for the deaths.

"God," Sica replied.

"What if I say to you that you're responsible for what happened in that house?" Det Zitny asked.

"I'd say no," Mr Sica said.

The trial continues.

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SICA BLAMES GOD....yes after hours of questioning and police asking him who do you think would have done such a thing etc etc etc...AND the police letting him realize they were pointing the finger at him..... he answered GOD.

Presumption of innocence even at the beginning of this whole saga was never on Det. Zitny`s mind. He was the lead Detective, (and in my opinion), he wanted results the quick and easy way.

Nine yrs ago when Max Sica discovered the bodies of the Singh children, all the facts, details and issues regarding the Singh family were not made public yet. Max Sica never went to Neelma or Mrs Singh or anyone else in the family and ask them to tell him about the familys and moreso Mr Singhs private and sordid details. It was mainly Mrs Singh that would tell Max Sica about what her husband was up to and how he made her have sex with other men etc etc. She told other people about her issues with Mr Singh as well.

Max Sica was called by members of the Singh family whenever there was some sort of domestic violence issues at the Singh home on more than one occasion.

On the day he discovered the bodies, he could not believe that out of all the times he had been there for them in times of need, he was not there when their lives were brutally taken from them. For if he was there on that day, he would risk losing his own life in an attempt to save theirs.

Mr Singh did not like Max Sica just because of the reasons he states, he did not like him because Max Sica was made aware by Mr Singh`s own family members about the man he truly is. Not the image of a religious, caring family man he wanted others to perceive him as. He also didnt like Max Sica because he said he was divorced and had children. Well only after the deaths of his children was it known that he had been married before and had children from that marriage. He has not spoken to them in about 30yrs. He was having an affair with his present wife at the time and left his first wife and family to start up a new one. His present wife was also married to someone else and had children from that marriage. Funny how being so religious only suits you when its not about yourself.

Sometimes you dont have to have a criminal record to be a true criminal. some people who dont have a criminal record..by law.., commit crimes of all sorts and get away with it with a clean image.

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Tearful accused killer Max Sica denied kiling Singh children, court told

ACCUSED killer Max Sica tearfully denied to police that he had murdered the three Singh siblings, asking detectives why he would do such a thing, a court has heard.

A Supreme Court jury in Brisbane was watching a recorded video interview between Sica and chief investigating officer Detective Sgt Joe Zitny which took place at the Petrie police station on the night of April 22, 2003.

In the interview, Sica told his version of how he found the bodies of Neelma Singh, 24, Kunal Singh, 18, and Sidhi Singh, 12, at Bridgeman Downs, in Brisbane's north, on April 22, 2003.

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Sica, 42, has pleaded not guilty to murdering the three Singh siblings on April 21, 2003.

At one stage, Sica was asked if he had anything to so with the killings.

"Why would I do this? You tell me. I wouldn't do something like this," Sica said.

He was then asked if he knew who was behind the killings.

"If I knew I wouldn't be here, I would be there," Sica said, indicating he might have taken the law into his own hands.

Det Zitny asked Sica why he had gone back upstairs to where the bodies were after initially going downstairs to ring 000.

"I didn't believe it. I wanted to make sure, I wanted to see them once more," an openly sobbing Sica said.

Det Zitny asked: "To see them?"

"Yeah, to see them," Sica replied.

Earlier, Sica told Det Zitny the last time he saw Neelma was about 5pm at Sica's home in Trouts Road at Stafford, on Sunday, April 20.

However, Sica said despite having a new girlfriend he remained in a sexual relationship with Neelma and they had sex whenever they could - in a car or at her home.

He told detectives he had sex with Neelma about six times in the three weeks after her parents had gone to Fiji but he was supposed to be incognito because Neelma was afraid Kunal Singh would tell their father Vijay who didn't like him (Sica).

Sica also repeated his version of how he found the bodies of the Singh children.

He said he had his two children and niece with him when he arrived at Singh's home at about 2.20pm on April 22, 2003.

Sica couldn't get anyone to answer the door and he tried the home phone and no one answered

He told police he went to the back of the Singh's house and saw the screen door was unlocked and found the door also unlocked.

Sica said the Singh family's dog ran out and he gave his son his comb, phone and "smokes" and sent the children back to the car.

"If there was someone in the house I didn't want the kids around," Sica said.

He told detectives he armed himself with a large wooden spoon from the garage and then went inside to check on the house.

Sica had eventually gone upstairs and he went into Neelma's room where he saw the dog sniffing blood.

He then went to the main bedroom, opposite Neelma's room, as he heard the tap running in the ensuite.

Sica said he saw blankets piled up in the spa and he used the large spoon to lift them up.

It was then he touched Neelma's hand and he realised she was dead.

Sica said he could also see Kunal and Sidhi in the spa.

The trial before Justice John Byrne will resume on Monday.

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This is the very first interview police had with Max Sica on the very day he had discovered the bodies. Not only was he in shock and disbelief, but he was questioned for many hours that day and had to have an idea that police were thinking he might be the murderer.

I do not have a problem with police doing their job and interviewing all involved to try and solve a case, what i do have a problem with is the bias, tunnel vision investigation that took place from the very start. Max Sica was the prime suspect hours after discovering the bodies. Police did not bother then, to seek all other avenues which were apparent and in their face at that time.

Max Sica knew these people and when he went into that house he knew who lived there at the time. When he entered the bathroom and saw the spa covered with bedding etc, he used a wooden spoon to lift the covers and he saw who and how many people were in that spa. Even their own photos taken at the crime scene clearly shows this and they did not know these people at all. There are many conflicting statements of how many bodies could or could not be seen and this is from police, ambulance workers etc.

Max Sica asks police why he would do such a thing because he is innocent and is utterly shocked when he realizes that he could be accused of committing such a horrible crime. This crime is no crime of passion or a fight which got out of control, these kids were brutally tortured and murdered.

People who lived next to the Singh house at the time did come forward to say they heard screams, what sounded like gun shots, etc. This was not at the time police believe they were killed, this was Monday night and just after midnight into the Tuesday morning.

Im sure that each one of us have done things in life which we are not proud of, who more, who less. Max Sica may be guilty of some things which he is not proud of, but it certainly doesnt make him automatically guilty of murder.

MAKES YOU THINK......

These are witness statements from 2 workers who were working together at the house beside the Singh home.

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Mr Hurley`s statement:

Renderer Troy Edmond Hurley told the court he was working at a house next to the Singh's home on April 22, 2003, when he saw a car pull up and a man get out and spend "10 to 15 minutes" around the front of the house.

At that time he had not seen any children with the man but he had only glanced over his shoulder.

Mr Hurley said he later saw the man with two children, a boy and a girl, on the driveway and they went around the side of the house. The man had tried two doors at the back of the house.

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Mr Moore`s statement:

Mr Di Carlo asked Mr Moore if he saw the man and the children knock on the front door and then walk up the back of the garage and look around.

"No, the man went up the driveway and to the back of the house," Mr Moore said.

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These two men were working at the same house on that day, each man has a different version of what they saw and heard on the day. Which version do you think the police were more in favour of?

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Witness statements from people who lived close to the Singh house at the time of their deaths.

She told the court she had been away for the Easter weekend and returned home at about lunchtime on the Monday.

In the afternoon she had a barbecue for some friends and about 7.30 or 8.30 they heard what sounded like two gunshots or two cracks of a whip.

"Did you also hear a blood curdling scream?" Mr Di Carlo asked.

Ms Bliss replied that she had and it seemed to be a female.

She told Mr Di Carlo she had not called police but later spoke with them after an unusual incident while she was walking with a friend.

Ms Bliss said she was walking on a bike path at about 5.30am when she saw a man dressed in work clothes.

The man looked at them and ran off before jumping a fence.

Ms Bliss told Mr Di Carlo she was shown a photo board but had not recognised anyone and had also helped police with a comfit photograph.

Julie Anne Hicks and her then boyfriend Gary Paul Ball went to a barbecue at Ms Bliss and her husband Jeffrey Bliss's home at Grey Gum Close.

Ms Hicks said it had been very quiet and dark and she assumed most people were still away for Easter.

She told Mr Di Carlo she heard what she thought was a whip crack but after talking with the others they decided it was a gunshot.

Ms Hicks said she also recalled hearing a loud scream.

"I have described it as blood curdling. It made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up. I thought it was female and it seemed to go on for about 10 seconds," she added.

Ms Hicks told Mr Di Carlo that at the time it had terrified her and she had expected to hear sirens but she didn't.

"We didn't know where it came from ......we had no sense of direction," she said.

Ms Hicks said she could put the time as being dark but before 8.30pm when she had gone inside to watch a television show.

Mr Ball told Mr Di Carlo he went to the Hendra police station the next day because he had concerns about some noises he heard.

He said between 8pm and 8.30pm he heard two to three short sharp shots.

"In between (the shots) I heard a scream......I had no idea where it came from," he said.

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Alicia Gwyneth Frances was the fourth witness to tell of hearing a scream in the area of the Singh family home on the night of April 21-22, 2003, but she placed it at a later time than evidence given by three others.

The court has heard police believe Neelma Singh, 24, Kunal Singh, 18, and Sidhi Singh, 12, were murdered at their Bridgeman Downs, in Brisbane's north, late on April 20 or early on April 21, 2003.

The Crown today called Mrs Frances for cross examination by barrister Sam Di Carlo, for Sica, on what she heard early on Tuesday, April 22, 2003.

Mrs Frances told the court she was asleep in her home in Knightsbridge Place, Bridgeman Down, which had a view of the Singhs' home in Grass Tree Close.

She told Mr Di Carlo she remembered being awoken by a screaming sound she believed was coming from the direction of Grass Tree Close.

"I opened my eyes and woke up....I physically got up and to look at the alarm clock," Mrs Frances said, explaining the clock was on her husband's side of the bed.

She said it was either 12.20 or 12.28 because she was not wearing her glasses and had trouble telling the difference between the "8" and the "0".

"So there was no guessing about the time," Mr Di Carlo said.

"Absolutely no," Mrs Frances replied.

Mr Di Carlo asked Mrs Frances if what she had heard could be described as "guttural".

"I believe I heard a scream. I thought it was blood curdling.......I felt it was a female," Mrs Frances said.

She said she went to the back of her house and stood there for 10 to 15 minutes while her husband had gone downstairs to check.

In re-examination, prosecutor Brendan Campbell asked if while she was standing in the backroom Mrs Frances heard anything else.

She said the initial noise sounded like it was carried on the wind but she also heard some other noise near the house.

Mr Campbell also asked how she was certain what day she heard the noises.

"I am going on what I said to police at that initial time. I am using that information and I know it happened at that time, it was Easter, it was that period of time," she replied.

The court had earlier heard evidence from three witnesses who were at a barbecue in a house near Grass Tree Close on April 21 and they heard a scream at about 8.30 that night

Paramedics, Peter Billin and Ryan Reddy told the court they were called to Grass Tree Close where they had been told there were three bodies.

Mr Billin told the court he could see a woman and a younger girl in the spa and he had tried to find any signs of life in either body.

He said he could find no signs of life and both had signs of rigor mortis.

Mr Reddy said he saw two bodies in the bath and another apparently submerged except for a foot protruding.

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Above you can read that Mr Reddy saw the foot of a third body in the spa bath when he arrived at the scene of the crime that day. Below is the statement of Officer Green and what HE SAID, HE SAW, when he arrived at the scene of the crime that day

Senior Constable Green said he saw only two bodies submerged in the murky water of the spa, which had been left running, upon first walking into the ensuite.

He said there was bedding dumped on the bathroom floor, which was wet where the spa had overflowed.

Some of the bedding had been placed in the spa with the bodies and at least two black pillows were partially submerged in the water, he said.

Senior Constable Green said he discovered the third body - being Kunal's - in the water only after returning to the ensuite a second time and moving a black pillow resting on the edge of the spa and then "leaning right over" the foot of the bath.

"At that stage I could see past the female body and see another set of legs wedged under her," he said.

Senior Constable Green said he could not see a male foot protruding from the spa, or a male knee visible beneath the water, upon his initial observation of the scene.

"I remember them being wedged further down," he said.

But he conceded parts of the third body were visible at the time after being shown crime scene photographs when cross-examined by Mr Sica's defence barrister Sam Di Carlo.

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I am not trying to prove anything here, but sometimes it just boggles the mind how there can be different versions by different people of the same event.

Like i have stated before on this blog, the police only alledge that the crimes were committed late Sunday very early Monday because Max Sica was in his bed sleeping at that time, thus to them he had no tangiable alibi.

The coroner cannot establish time of death because of factors involved in the crime itself. He cannot really even establish the exact murder weapons used to kill them for there was more than one.

Think about it yourselves and truly see what all the evidence and facts are truly saying about this case.